Chump Car = $500 Cars?

Not quite.

Here’s a video of some of the cars that passed the $500 “acid test”.

A discussion has been started by a Chump Car official over on their website claiming that grumblings about the lack of enforcement (re: the $500 prep rule) are not well founded – actually, I have reason to believe he’s talking about me. 

Probably most recently here and previously here.

This is the post:

Contrary to opinions…

Hi Chumps – 3:30am and I’m sitting in the tower, watching the fog role in and out… and I had a moment to respond to an issue that was bouncing around the paddock earlier today.

I’ve read some of the comments about some of the “eligibility” and $500 legality of certain cars here at PIR. Yes, there is an ex-Spec Miata in the race; however, they did swap put all of the “race” suspension for junk, stock suspension, and the powertrain was VERY used and stock. As many of you know, I have have raced in Spec-Miata and I have two Miatas that I have campaigned in LeMons… so I know a POS Miata when I see one. So, upon a very thorough inspection, ChumpCar determined that this car was no different then buying ANY used race car and downgrading it to crap-can standards. We have been watching the lap times and handling of many cars — some that we thought may have been borderline — and no one has been “pulling away.” We have not seen any unfair advantages and, if anything, those cars which were suspect of legality have, in my opinion, underperformed. Bottom line — there will always be a car (or cars) that are suspect of cheating. ChumpCar is not immune from opinions or rumors… and unless you’re the one that is crawling under and through the car to check legality issues, everyone will have to trust the Safety and Technical Inspection Team to do their job.

All the best –
John

The comments that follow in that thread are great – whiners?.  Really?  That’s the best you’ve got?

No, it isn’t.., you’ve also got (from the forum) – “Additionally, the rules kind of prohibit convertibles. So a hard top might fall under safety.”  This can’t possibly be a serious defense.

I think Chump Car is a cool idea (it is different from LeMons) and I’m glad they decided to come to Portland.  And, if they say a car is elligible, it is.  There is reason to believe, because of comments and writings of officials, that they want us to believe they are “serious” about the $500 car thing.  My opinion is that they are not, and I’ve cited specific examples (including the cost of parts on the car) – I’ve got plenty more, if you want to go there.  Don’t show me a duck and insist it’s a pig.  If it walks, talks and quacks like a duck…

My opinion (and you are welcome to yours) is that they missed the stated target.  That’s all.  And, if this really is racing, then working over your competitors about the legality of their cars and the officials (when necessary)  is part of the process.  So get off your high (I’ve been doing this for 2 years and I’m really experienced) horse and get over it. 

I believe that “Chump Car” will get it right and they could use help from competitors in understanding what we think “right” is (again, my opinion).  If you think they did get it right, tell them so.

I’ll look over at the Chump Car forum occassionally and chime in if the discussion continues (and becomes more interesting, read: smarter), but more people are coming to this blog, so feel free to discuss it here if you like.  If you post a comment, an admin will approve it, even if it is contrary to my stated “opinion”.

Chump Car – Lap 584 ( 1446 pst)

I think this is all correct, it was taken off of the live timing monitor of somebody more important than us that is close enough to the “good” end of the pit lane to make the timing program work.

Git Miata Here, with 584 laps

Dagobah II – 570

Coalition of the Willing – 563

World Rally Chumps – 556

team rusty fishhook – 554

Pole Position Racing

Autosport Lab Rats

Team Produnk

Team RSI (formerly in 3rd place, but back on track)

Eh! Team (???)

Beach Dudes – 519 (behind the wall and about to be passed for 10th by…..)….

Team Partridge Family – 518

Chump Car – Lap 529

Get Miata Here, 529 laps

Dagobah II, – 14 laps

Coalition of the Willing, -18 laps

Team RSI, -22 laps

World Rally Chumps, -26 laps

42, 10th -55

The Partridge Family is still 11th, -64 laps.  We are chasing Beach Dudes, but they are 9 laps ahead.  The Fiatcage.com sponsored Mediterranean style “machine para tailgato” is attacking off the back and is now 19th, 94 laps out, and looking good doing it.

Chump Car – Lap 494

The leaders are:

Git Miata Here, 494 laps

Dagobah II,  – 5 laps

Coalition of the Willing,  – 18 laps

Team RSI, – 23 laps

World Rally Chumps, – 24 laps

Reuben Kincaid and the fam are in 11th, 59 laps down (but in front of the mini-Mafia in 14th, – 65 laps).  The Partridges are 8 laps out of tenth (and only one out of 12th) with a car that is running poorly.

Chump Car – Lap 459 (1115 pst)

Git Miata Here, 459 laps

Dagobah II, -4 laps

Coalition of the Willing,  – 16 laps

Team RSI, – 19 laps

World Rally Chumps, – 21 laps

In the battle of local Spec Miata teams (the ones without Spec Miatas), Guido, and company, have regained the advantage over the Partridge Bus.  That Fiat has already run for 3 hours longer than any Italian race car in over 3 decades – any time now…

11 La Familia, – 52 laps

12 Partridge Family, – 56 laps

Everybody is a Comedian… or, What I Learned Watching Flipper

I will get even (even though it looks like God already took the first shot at it).  I learned watching “Flipper”, as a kid, that sharks are sensitive around the head area – remember Flipper ramming rogue sharks..?

something bigger than shark
speechless - I think my karma caught up with your dog-ma fish...

Shark Attack!!!

It was dark, they were big, I never saw it coming – that’s pretty much the description given by the driver of the “Shark Car” of the moments shortly before this happened.

sharked camaro
Now it's a $500 car...

Entering the fast turn 5, using all of the lighting you would expect on a $500 car the turn-in mark was obscured by the Camaro (which had driven over it and toward the tire wall protected turn 5 concrete).  “I just followed him off”. 

shark crash 2
Shark bites surfer, turns out to be big boat...

The Shark was a Spec Miata that had been heavily damaged in a crash in July.  Put a fork in it – as I had previously quipped “looks like bait”.